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Message par Corsugone » 13 juin 2012 21:36

A 0'42", image gauche, et 0'52", image droite, le bas de caisse arrière semble cabossé en comparaison de l'image à 1:19" :shock:

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Message par Corsugone » 20 juin 2012 19:56

"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 22 juin 2012 10:05

C'est parti .....

Le groupe américain Tesla, qui a frôlé la cessation de paiement en 2008, livre aujourd'hui les premiers exemplaires de sa voiture électrique Model S, tout juste sortis des chaînes de montage.

Elle coûte entre 95.400 et 105.400 dollars (soit 70.000 et 83.951 euros) et peut rouler pendant 426 kilomètres. Déjà 10.000 personnes ont déposé 5000 dollars d'ars pour réserver une berline.

Tesla espère générer les premiers profits de la compagnie avec cette voiture, d'après l'agence Bloomberg. Le cash-flox de la société peut devenir positif en 2013 si 8000 Model S sont vendus, a précisé le co-fondateur et PDG de Tesla Elon Musk. L'objectif de Tesla est de livrer 5300 véhicules cette année et 20.000 en 2013.


"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 22 juin 2012 13:35

A bien regarder, la Pub Apple n'est pas loin ...
"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 24 juin 2012 08:19

Premier essai presse, pardon prise en main, pour le test d'autonomie réelle faudra attendre .....

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 24 juin 2012 11:54

La secte est au grand complet, la messe peut commencer ...

"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 25 juin 2012 17:25

Petit retour à la technique ...





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Message par Corsugone » 26 juin 2012 18:14

Intéressant, la suspension est développée par un ancien de Lotus. Sacré bon point.

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 27 juin 2012 18:13

Il y en a un qui est arrivé à mettre sa belle-mère dans le coffre, le veinard, et en plus elle semble aimer ça !

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Message par Corsugone » 28 juin 2012 13:04

Divertissant et intéressant.

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Message par Corsugone » 30 juin 2012 10:03

Au milieu de ce concert de louanges, quelques vérités rappelées par MotorNature.

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Message par Corsugone » 09 juil. 2012 09:06

Tesla se fait vilipender sur le poids réel du seul modèle actuellement à la vente. Je parie que cela va embrayer sur l'autonomie réelle du véhicule.
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Message par ze_shark » 21 août 2012 12:10

Echange d'amabilités entre Elon Musk et Henrik Fisker paru dans Automobile Magazine:
I don't think very highly of Henrik Fisker. At first I thought I'd outsource the design of the Model S to Henrik Fisker when he had a styling company...And, the initial proposals he came with were pretty good, and then as we got into it they started getting worse and worse. I was very puzzled as to why he was producing such awful designs for us. It turns out what he actually decided to do was to take our specifications for the Model S...he took that basic plans, shopped it, got it funded, didn't tell us. What it turned out was, we were paying him to do styling for his own car.

[Note: Tesla sued Henrik Fisker and lost in mediation.]
The fundamental problem with Henrik Fisker he is a designer or stylist...he thinks the reason we don't have electric cars is for lack of styling. This is not the reason. It's fundamentally a technology problem. At the same time you need to make it look good and feel good, because otherwise you're going to have an impaired product. But just making something look like an electric car does not make it an electric car. [Fisker] thinks the most important thing in the world -- or the only important thing in the world -- is design, so he outsourced the engineering and manufacturing. But the fact is...that's the crux of the problem. And he's outsourcing to people who don't know how to solve the problem. So he came up with a product -- it's a mediocre product at a high price. It looks good. Particularly from the side it looks good. I don't love the front. It looks too much like a caricature of a Mexican Bandito, the grille. The car looks very big, it's bigger than the Model S, but it has no trunk space and it's cramped inside, particularly in the rear seats. The mark of a good design is something that has great aesthetics and great functionality.

[Note: In the interest of fairness, we provided Henrik Fisker the opportunity to respond to Musk's comments. He did so via e-mail:

"Firstly, to set the record straight, Fisker won in court...a judge threw out the case and awarded costs to Fisker.
We are delighted that Elon thinks the Karma is a good-looking car.
Obviously, Tesla and Fisker are appealing to two different customer bases with two totally different technologies. Tesla has pure EV and Fisker has a range-extended offering with no compromise on range. We are proud to have delivered over 1000 Karmas to customers in the U.S. and Europe and are now moving into the [Gulf Cooperation Council countries] and Chinese global markets.
We wish Tesla all the best with their latest model and hope that both companies go from strength to strength as they challenge the automotive rulebook."
Fisker a toutes les raisons de jouer profil bas avec le rappel de toutes les Karma produites pour risque d'incendie.
Reste que la Karma est sur le marché depuis pus longtemps que le Model S. J'espère pour eux qu'ils auront moins de problèmes de fiabilité. Il y a une énorme différence entre des Roasters utilisés occasionnellement et/ou par des enthousiastes hardcore, et une clientèle qui croit avoir acheté un remplacement chicos-trendy à sa Lexus.

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